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Oof. That's rough dude. It sounds like this shop is going to make it right though.

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Oof. That's rough dude. It sounds like this shop is going to make it right though.

Dave

Agree with Dave,but they should of told you about the lights before you left to make the tripp


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3.5 months later back home. Joke of a build experience. Hate this is how it is 100% out of the tuning world for cars. Not worth my time or money. Nothing but problems over the years. Those that have had good shop experiences...stick with them they are very very hard to come by. 

 

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This was a car that hasn't seen salt/snow for 4+ years....sigh

 

 


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That’s sucks, atleast it’s back and hopefully mechanically and software sound.

Goodluck and see you on the streets after the thaw.
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TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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Not every shop is bad but typically you get what you pay for.

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Not every shop is bad but typically you get what you pay for.

99% you don't get what you pay for in my experience. Will promise the world when they can't deliver. Go build your own 1000whp car and find out.



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I've learned that lots of shops overestimate their capabilities. It's best to just pay extra up front and go to a shop that's been doing big builds for years. Ams, Cicio, English Racing, Ivey, T1, Real Street, CLM while it costs more up front the time and headaches saved alone are worth the money. And often times the cheaper shops end up costing more money anyways when you factor in broken parts, down time, extra repairs.

Edited by VR_power, 27 December 2020 - 01:45 PM.

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99% you don't get what you pay for in my experience. Will promise the world when they can't deliver. Go build your own 1000whp car and find out.


I don't need to build a car to prove you wrong when hundreds of people have no problem with good shops. You make it like all shops are bad but it's only the ones you choose.

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I don't need to build a car to prove you wrong when hundreds of people have no problem with good shops. You make it like all shops are bad but it's only the ones you choose.

You really are a grade A cunt bag aren't ya. Go fuck yourself with broken glass tool. 


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I've learned that lots of shops overestimate their capabilities. It's best to just pay extra up front and go to a shop that's been doing big builds for years. Ams, Cicio, English Racing, Ivey, T1, Real Street, CLM while it costs more up front the time and headaches saved alone are worth the money. And often times the cheaper shops end up costing more money anyways when you factor in broken parts, down time, extra repairs.

 

To say I chose the wrong shops to save a buck is fucking hilarious ..if you actually knew. Go to page 1 and look at the parts list. Maybe you'll get lucky and the place actually gets the job done...maybe you wont. Auto industry is shit in 2020. Proof is in the pudding. You can choose 'the best' shop around doesn't mean you'll get 100% all the time. Do it yourself or don't is the best course right now. 

 

Not one corner was cut on this build to save a buck. I went with the best Hellcat tuner in the COUNTRY. With records to match. Somehow going with a 'well rated' shop did not pan out the first time for a simple supercharger install. Then the second was the recommendation of the Tuner himself. A personal friend of his. Back fired again. 

 

To sum this up. If you haven't walked the walk with building cars you have zero room to talk. Go look at AWDTT's recent build issue, how about Dave's at the local shop in town STM? Oh they chose the wrong shops too.  :ponder:  :ponder:  :ponder:


Edited by Dan_585, 28 December 2020 - 06:53 AM.

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3.5 months later back home. Joke of a build experience. Hate this is how it is 100% out of the tuning world for cars. Not worth my time or money. Nothing but problems over the years. Those that have had good shop experiences...stick with them they are very very hard to come by. 

 

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This was a car that hasn't seen salt/snow for 4+ years....sigh

 

What did they do to cause that?  That is just criminal!!


Edited by Guido, 28 December 2020 - 07:20 PM.

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Sorry to hear about your issues Dan, but need to be clear that STM and the entire crew did nothing other than help and support me. No question about it.

They lost thousands of dollars supporting me and trouble shooting AMS failures.

I’d have them build me a car any day of the week and they have and continue to support the current build.

Nothing better than local support and a build from a class shop.
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TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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Sorry to hear about your issues Dan, but need to be clear that STM and the entire crew did nothing other than help and support me. No question about it.

They lost thousands of dollars supporting me and trouble shooting AMS failures.

I’d have them build me a car any day of the week and they have and continue to support the current build.

Nothing better than local support and a build from a class shop.

My mistake, didn't really follow much on that situation but was aware of a lot of motor issues. AMS is a huge name in the GTR world if not the biggest, one would think you wouldn't have issues paying for top dollar parts that had months/years of R&D but it happens in the tuner industry pretty often along with poor service IMO. 

 

When i had my old Evo X, and FBO GTR done by STM couldn't say the same, along with many of my friends who've had their cars worked on by them (mostly evos). Glad you had some luck with that said. 

Quality shops with attention to detail and a strong passion for their work are very hard to come by.

 

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Current state of the car: Salt decontaminated every inch besides the under chassis currently. Engine bay steam cleaned. Contact on intake cured temporarily with foam insulation until adjusted. Coolant lines insulated. Chiller seems to be working but would still like to check data in summer temps. Lots of rock chips/scratches on the front bumper/quarter panels now. Most likely those panels needs to get repainted. 

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If the tunes work should be a rocket ship. Shop said they would adjust whatever was needed but after 4 months in their hands and how it was delivered extremely hesitant to let them touch it again. Still waiting on the dyno sheets as well.


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That cleaned up nice.
TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.




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