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Hey guys,

What are the track rats using for diy alignments? I need something I can do at home and also at the track preferably.

Thanks!

Dave
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DIY alignments are super easy man. Here are the only 2 things you need, along with a healthy bit of patience to get it just right!

https://www.summitra...arts/lng-79501/

https://www.summitra...parts/tnh-1100/

Of course there are plenty of options, this is just what I use :)
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Excellent Wes. Thank you! I'm glad when shit isn't insanely expensive.

Any tips to keeping the wheel centred while adjusting toe? I've seen funky things that hold the wheel in place, or can you just wiggle the wheel without the car on and have the column lock like older ones used to?

Dave
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Excellent Wes. Thank you! I'm glad when shit isn't insanely expensive.

Any tips to keeping the wheel centred while adjusting toe? I've seen funky things that hold the wheel in place, or can you just wiggle the wheel without the car on and have the column lock like older ones used to?

Dave


Agreed. Less $ on tools means more $ for fresh tires!

As for the steering wheel - I don’t have any shortcuts for that. You’ll have to set the toe and then drive the car a bit to see where the steering wheel is at. Then come home and adjust both sides until the wheel is straight. I think that’s where the strings and jackstands come into play, in order to get the “thrust angle” straight with the chassis. TBH I have never cared much if the steering wheel is off a bit. We are changing the alignment every few weeks anyways and it’s just too much of a hassle. I should start using strings I guess...

The good news is that you can easily adjust toe without lifting the car or removing the wheels. The steering arms are easy to reach if you lay down on the ground.
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2010 GT-R - Matte Gray, AP/Carbotech, BSE trans cooler, BSE tune on ECUTek, H&R sways, AMSOIL, NASA-AZ TT2 and occasional DD
1976 FJ-40 Rock Buggy - tube chassis, LQ4, 700R4, NP205, Rockwells, F&R hydraulic steering, Fox, Ballistic, lots of 4130, 7068, and AR400

2001 Ford Excursion - V10, DD and occasional tow rig

facebook.com/DangerousEnterprises

Do want someday - Radical, 599 GTB w/FHP, 430 Scud, Superlite Coupe, FF Type 65 Coupe


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Agreed. Less $ on tools means more $ for fresh tires!

As for the steering wheel - I don’t have any shortcuts for that. You’ll have to set the toe and then drive the car a bit to see where the steering wheel is at. Then come home and adjust both sides until the wheel is straight. I think that’s where the strings and jackstands come into play, in order to get the “thrust angle” straight with the chassis. TBH I have never cared much if the steering wheel is off a bit. We are changing the alignment every few weeks anyways and it’s just too much of a hassle. I should start using strings I guess...

The good news is that you can easily adjust toe without lifting the car or removing the wheels. The steering arms are easy to reach if you lay down on the ground.

Excellent. That is good news. I was hoping as much but have never adjusted her myself. Time to learn!

Thanks for all the pointers man.

Dave
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Wes,  could you do a write up!???


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In7anity!!


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This is what I use.

 

lng-79505    The deluxe plates are nice.  They stay on the tire/wheel very well

 

 

lng-78290    I love this camber gauge.  The magnet fits and stays perfect on the rear of my car with my drag wheels on which makes it real nice when making adjustments.


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Wes, could you do a write up!???


Hate to pile on/ create more work but i agree!
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Wes, could you do a write up!???


Sure thing! It’s honestly so simple that it would just be a few pics and quick instructions. The main thing is just patience when doing the camber because you need to RnR the wheel over and over again and lift/lower the car over and over until it’s where you want it.

I’ll snap some pics next time I do it...
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1976 FJ-40 Rock Buggy - tube chassis, LQ4, 700R4, NP205, Rockwells, F&R hydraulic steering, Fox, Ballistic, lots of 4130, 7068, and AR400

2001 Ford Excursion - V10, DD and occasional tow rig

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great info WES.....



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Ordered the bits. I went with elf's setup so I have a better chance of bugging someone for explicit n00b halps later.

Dave
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You need this to keep the steering wheel straight while doing a DIY alignment:

 

https://www.amazon.c...tomotive&sr=1-2

 

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You use that decartes? Looks a bit... Shitty.

Dave

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You use that decartes? Looks a bit... Shitty.

Dave


HAHAHAHA!!
Yeah, all that’s going to do is keep the steering wheel centered which is only half the battle. Ya need strings and jackstands to measure the angle of each wheel and keep them straight while adjusting the toe.

Here are the high level steps that I’ve been doing, in order:

1. Adjust front camber as desired
2. Adjust rear camber as desired
3. Adjust front toe to 0 or very slight toe-out for track. Slight toe-in for highway.
4. Adjust rear toe to slight toe-in
5. Drive car and see where steering wheel is centered
6. Adjust front toe arms as needed to re-center the steering wheel (make sure to do equal turns on each side)

Steps 1-4 should only take about 30 mins.
Steps 5 and 6 may need to be repeated a few times and will take longer...
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2010 GT-R - Matte Gray, AP/Carbotech, BSE trans cooler, BSE tune on ECUTek, H&R sways, AMSOIL, NASA-AZ TT2 and occasional DD
1976 FJ-40 Rock Buggy - tube chassis, LQ4, 700R4, NP205, Rockwells, F&R hydraulic steering, Fox, Ballistic, lots of 4130, 7068, and AR400

2001 Ford Excursion - V10, DD and occasional tow rig

facebook.com/DangerousEnterprises

Do want someday - Radical, 599 GTB w/FHP, 430 Scud, Superlite Coupe, FF Type 65 Coupe


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You use that decartes? Looks a bit... Shitty.

Dave

 

Here is the actual one I bought, but costs a bit more. I was trying to save you guys some money with the first one:

 

https://www.amazon.c...78051517&sr=8-7


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What about these for adjusting toe- any difference in accuracy?

VKRP Distributors Aluminum Wheel Alignment Turn Plates Turntables/Plates/Turn/Tables/Pads/tie Rod Adjustment Set of 2 with ramps

https://www.amazon.c...i_c62dEbYXD9MB1




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