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Best Answer JohnnyTSi , 23 March 2020 - 07:58 PM

Followup for the next unfortunate soul that wants to take this project on! It IS possible to install a Block Heater from the top. I had to remove both upper and lower intake manifolds to have enough room to get the job done. Even with the manifold out of the way I couldn't get my fat hands down far enough to even touch the mounting hole.

 

With the cable attached I was able to use a coat hanger bent into a "U" on the end to coax the element into the hole!

Once the end is in the hole it was about 3331/3 wiggles using the cable and a long screwdriver to get it coaxed all the way into the hole.

Next challenge was to get the clip to engage, I used one of my long pry-bars that has an angled end to pop the clip on.by prying against the end of the connector.

 

Good Luck,

John-

 

 

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Has anyone here installed a block heater in their r35? I have a heater element and cord inbound and after looking at how tight the engine/firewall is I'm wondering how hard the install is? or if it is even possible without dropping the engine?

 

 

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-since I live in Fl . I can’t be of any help, and to be honest I don’t think I’ve er even seen a thread on this subject


 

 


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-since I live in Fl . I can’t be of any help, and to be honest I don’t think I’ve er even seen a thread on this subject

 

I did a bit of searching and discovered very little info - Hence why I started this thread!

 

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The most information I found was in this thread on the 'other' board:

 

https://www.gtrlife....adian-brothers/

 

part numbers needed:

  • heater - 11001-1NC0B

  • cord - 24076-1LA1A

 
and I think this is where the heater element installs:
 

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That looks awful. But I hope I'm wrong. Let us know how it goes!

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That looks awful. But I hope I'm wrong. Let us know how it goes!

 

I agree - wish I had thought to check the last time I had the intake manifold off

 

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Running engines in extreme cold temps is typically "hard" on many components. Why do you need to start/drive it in such harsh temperature conditions?
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Running engines in extreme cold temps is typically "hard" on many components. Why do you need to start/drive it in such harsh temperature conditions?

 

well - that was helpfull! 

 

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well - that was helpfull! 
 
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Maybe not to you but possibly to your car/motor? Lol

Coming from an aviation background our mechanics used to say "if you need to buy a block heater get ready to buy a new engine"
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Maybe not to you but possibly to your car/motor? Lol

Coming from an aviation background our mechanics used to say "if you need to buy a block heater get ready to buy a new engine"

 

So John, socalaviator is kind of right about this.  I realize the responses sound kurt and off the cuff, but they are correct.  If you plan on operating this beast in the Washington area during your extreme winters, especially highly tuned, even with a block heater there WILL be consequences.  So, I think what he's getting at is if you can have a beater car that you don't care as much about during the winters that might be a better choice.

 

If, on the other hand, you're going to run a block heater when the outside temp is 50 deg F at startup for safer startups for a nice spring or fall drive, that's another thing.  And, living in Washington, you have more familiarity with block heaters than many of us do down in the lower 50.

 

So, everybody dial down just a little bit and let us know what the real situation is....

 

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So John, socalaviator is kind of right about this.  I realize the responses sound kurt and off the cuff, but they are correct.  If you plan on operating this beast in the Washington area during your extreme winters, especially highly tuned, even with a block heater there WILL be consequences.  So, I think what he's getting at is if you can have a beater car that you don't care as much about during the winters that might be a better choice.
 
If, on the other hand, you're going to run a block heater when the outside temp is 50 deg F at startup for safer startups for a nice spring or fall drive, that's another thing.  And, living in Washington, you have more familiarity with block heaters than many of us do down in the lower 50.
 
So, everybody dial down just a little bit and let us know what the real situation is....
 
Shawn


I was genuinely curious about the need to operate the GTR in such harsh temperatures. Having a secondary vehicle of lesser value is a good recommendation.
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1. I bought this car to drive! frankly I've never understood why someone buys a car to turn it into a garage queen! I drive my cars like I stole it every day! and frankly the though of driving a shitbox makes me gag!
2. I leave for work at 5am
3. I currently have a garage that is full of projects so the gt-r is relegated to the driveway! (yeah I know heresy)
4. I live in the Pacific Northwest, and while it isn't socal, it rarely dips into the teens, not exactly what I consider harsh weather! 
5. I'm an old wild child that has been around the world a few times and during those adventures been blown up, shot up, fallen off my skis, and been knocked off my motorcycle(s)! I have had more broken bones than anyone has a right to have had! and because of that when I'm cold I hurt! Having a block heater switch on at 4am will help both the car and me feel better!
so - now that you know my life's history! and why I want to install a block heater, I still don't have an answer to my original question. 
 
John-

Edited by JohnnyTSi, 26 November 2019 - 12:20 AM.

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1. I bought this car to drive! frankly I've never understood why someone buys a car to turn it into a garage queen! I drive my cars like I stole it every day! and frankly the though of driving a shitbox makes me gag!
2. I leave for work at 5am
3. I currently have a garage that is full of projects so the gt-r is relegated to the driveway! (yeah I know heresy)
4. I live in the Pacific Northwest, and while it isn't socal, it rarely dips into the teens, not exactly what I consider harsh weather! 
5. I'm an old wild child that has been around the world a few times and during those adventures been blown up, shot up, fallen off my skis, and been knocked off my motorcycle(s)! I have had more broken bones than anyone has a right to have had! and because of that when I'm cold I hurt! Having a block heater switch on at 4am will help both the car and me feel better!
so - now that you know my life's history! and why I want to install a block heater, I still don't have an answer to my original question. 
 
John-

 

Best response ever..Kudos my friend....I honestly wish I could help you with this...I know about hurting when it’s cold 


 

 


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1. I bought this car to drive! frankly I've never understood why someone buys a car to turn it into a garage queen! I drive my cars like I stole it every day! and frankly the though of driving a shitbox makes me gag!
2. I leave for work at 5am
3. I currently have a garage that is full of projects so the gt-r is relegated to the driveway! (yeah I know heresy)
4. I live in the Pacific Northwest, and while it isn't socal, it rarely dips into the teens, not exactly what I consider harsh weather! 
5. I'm an old wild child that has been around the world a few times and during those adventures been blown up, shot up, fallen off my skis, and been knocked off my motorcycle(s)! I have had more broken bones than anyone has a right to have had! and because of that when I'm cold I hurt! Having a block heater switch on at 4am will help both the car and me feel better!
so - now that you know my life's history! and why I want to install a block heater, I still don't have an answer to my original question. 
 
John-

 

 

Okay.  I suggest installing the OEM block heater, AND a dipstick heater, AND if you can find one of the old stick on oil pan heaters I'd strongly suggest them all.

 

Shawn


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1. I bought this car to drive! frankly I've never understood why someone buys a car to turn it into a garage queen! I drive my cars like I stole it every day! and frankly the though of driving a shitbox makes me gag!
2. I leave for work at 5am
3. I currently have a garage that is full of projects so the gt-r is relegated to the driveway! (yeah I know heresy)
4. I live in the Pacific Northwest, and while it isn't socal, it rarely dips into the teens, not exactly what I consider harsh weather! 
5. I'm an old wild child that has been around the world a few times and during those adventures been blown up, shot up, fallen off my skis, and been knocked off my motorcycle(s)! I have had more broken bones than anyone has a right to have had! and because of that when I'm cold I hurt! Having a block heater switch on at 4am will help both the car and me feel better!
so - now that you know my life's history! and why I want to install a block heater, I still don't have an answer to my original question. 
 
John-


LOL!

Just forget the block heater and drive it like you stole it!
Besides, you might hurt your back installing it. (J/k)
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I just warm it up before drive (idle like 15min)



Been working with enshiu on my car for the past 2 days. This guy is a mad scientist. He knows his stuff about GT-Rs. We spent the past few days changing brakes, rotors and upgrading my  gotboost full intercooler piping. Enshiu will post pics of my car later.

 

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I just warm it up before drive (idle like 15min)

 

I have installed the 12v solutions remote start kit and do start it a few mins before I leave! It is well known that letting a cold engine idle really isn't good for it so I'd like to get the block heater installed.

 

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There is no way to get this installed from the top - there just isn't enough room to get my hand snaked through the wiring and the coolant 'Y' pipe. I have a ported intake manifold that I need to install, I should be able to get it in with the upper and lower manifolds off.

 

Here is a better view of how it installs in the block:

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I have installed the 12v solutions remote start kit and do start it a few mins before I leave! It is well known that letting a cold engine idle really isn't good for it so I'd like to get the block heater installed.

 

John-

 

This is absolutely true down to some really stupid cold temperature.  I don't know how low that temp is though.  I think it's something like -50 C.  Below that, start and drive can be harmful without block heater or start and idle for a while.  Still hard on wear and carbon buildup though.

 

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There is no way to get this installed from the top - there just isn't enough room to get my hand snaked through the wiring and the coolant 'Y' pipe. I have a ported intake manifold that I need to install, I should be able to get it in with the upper and lower manifolds off.

 

Here is a better view of how it installs in the block:

 

Let us know how it goes.

 

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