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Assistance w/ Helmet Selection, 4 Point, HANS

Started by Biff_Malibu , May 21 2019 10:32 PM

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Biff_Malibu

Posted 21 May 2019 - 10:32 PM

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Hello Ladies and Gents,

Can anyone point me towards a good light weight (ideally carbon) open face helmet? Looking for something high quality, and light as fuck. I’d like it to be compatible with a HANS device. The only one I’ve found is this:

https://pyrotectstor...-graphic-sa2015

This is the harness I’m thinking of ordering:

https://www.nengun.c...-racing-harness

Does anyone have pics of how the harnesses can be mounted safely? Not looking to do cage or bar as I use the backseats from time to time.

This is my first foray in to safety equipment. Any guidance is welcome.

Thanks,

Joe

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 12:12 AM

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Bell makes the lightest helmets I’ve seen. My wife has their M8 carbon and it’s noticeably lighter than my Pyrotect. I would strongly recommend a full helmet vs an open face. It will protect you from broken glass or other debris entering the car during an impact, and the visibility is not any worse, really. Grab a tinted visor as well, and you won’t have to wear sunglasses inside the helmet. An open face won’t give you that option.

As for harnesses, I understand not wanting to hack up the front seat for a proper 6 point through the seat cushion. The only 4 point that will pass NASA tech (other clubs may be different) is the Schroth ASM (anti-submarine strap). I used one of these for years. It’s a regular 4-point but the inside shoulder strap has an extra length that is sewn up and will expand during an impact. That allows your torso to twist and fold down a bit, just like a factory 3 point belt. This is important because it prevents the body from submarining under the lap belt and it also allows more space over your head in case the roof collapses. The should straps can be easily mounted underneath the rear seat cushion. It would probably take 10-15 minutes to swap the cushion in/out and remove or install the shoulder straps.

What kind of events are you planning to participate in?

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:36 AM

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Was going to mention that Pobst loves his Bells. My son uses Bell as well for drag racing.

Edited by droptopp, 22 May 2019 - 08:37 AM.

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TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:56 AM

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Sounds like the Bell is the way to go.

My main use for all of this is HPDE events. Nothing extreme, and not highly competitive. My reasoning for the extra safety is my recent accident which was a good wake up call to the what if factor. I decided I want to protect my neck.

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droptopp

Posted 22 May 2019 - 04:37 PM

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How’s the heel healing up ?

This is the one my son uses, not full face though :

https://badasshelmet...-helmet-review/

I use my bike helmets and as such are full face Arai with an iridium visor.

I just saw this PSS (PRO SHADE SYSTEM) which looks to be pretty cool so you don’t have to change out or leave up if using at night. Not sure how a double visor would breath though.

https://www.araihelm.../en/accessories

Seven had a post awhile aback about a new helmet he picked up.

TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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Aequitas & Veritas

Posted 23 May 2019 - 07:57 AM

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How’s the heel healing up ?

This is the one my son uses, not full face though :

https://badasshelmet...-helmet-review/

I use my bike helmets and as such are full face Arai with an iridium visor.

I just saw this PSS (PRO SHADE SYSTEM) which looks to be pretty cool so you don’t have to change out or leave up if using at night. Not sure how a double visor would breath though.

https://www.araihelm.../en/accessories

Seven had a post awhile aback about a new helmet he picked up.

I've never seen an exterior shade like that, all the bike helmets that I've seen/used with shade systems are interior systems. My AGV and my wife's Scorpion both have interior visors, she uses hers. I do not as I hate having my helmet opened (PRK eye surgery too much wind in my eyes bothers me)

But for the car I use a Bell Vader which is Hans capable. It's lighter than my AGV bike helmet. But I'll probably go to a carbon one when I buy one next as I'm still on SA2010 (sadly haven't been to the track in a long while...)

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 01:47 PM

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(sadly haven't been to the track in a long while...)

Same here, especially on 2 wheels.

TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.