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TSM: Stock Engine / Trans ELITE Build Delivered - Atlanta

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We just finished up another badass daily driven car that I wanted to share with you guys. This customer brought us his beautiful 2017 wanting 800hp while retaining completely stock like drivability. Having been heard about the ELITE systems he wanted to know if I could build him a dead nuts reliable 800whp street car to enjoy. 

I informed him that our stock engine ELITE package not only drives 100% like stock but we warranty the parts we install AND the stock engine!   At the 700-800 wheel options on stock engine there are a few different turbo options that will meet the goals. The question is do you want to have the option to upgrade later and make more HP and do you want the reliability of a ball bearing turbo vs the stock style journal bearing? From what we have seen the people that upgrade the journal bearing stock CHRA over time start showing signs of wear and oil usage/smoking. Some are certainly better than others and the price point certainly is good on those style turbos. However upgrading to a full ball bearing turbo that is designed to support the load of the wheels is always a better option if the budget allows.

So with the path set and future goals considers we jumped in. Being a local customer he had the advantage of scheduling and then dropping the car off when we were ready to drop the engine. A week or so after drop off the car was on the dyno making jams!  The ELITE makes such a flat torque curve that it translate beautifully into a linear HP curve keeping the stock components very happy without giving up tons of spool. As you can see from the dyno graphs below the combination is incredible on the street.

 

 

 

 

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-OneLap of America Overall 1st Place - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

-TX2K13 Overall 1st Place | TX2K13 Class 2 1st Place

-Shootout 2015 Overall 1st Place & 2nd Place

-TX2K15 Class 4 2nd Place | TX2K15 Roll Race 1st Place SS

-FL2K 2015 Overall 1st Place

-TSM Shop Car (ETS Pro1900) @ 7.37 & 198

-Fastest Customer @ 7.52@192

-TSM ELITE Plus Stock Frames @ 7.98@169

-Standing Half Mile Stock Frame Turbo Record @ 209 TSM ELITE

-Standing Half Mile 225.9 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 219.5 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 218.3 MPH

 

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Great numbers.  Curious as to the boost you were running on pump to generate those numbers.  My XG setup makes almost identical power on pump(20hp less on topend), but I have to push the turbo just about as hard as it will go on the topend (~24psi spike holding ~22psi).  I'm definitely eyeing a turbo upgrade in the future as I don't like to push the turbo so hard on a daily basis to support those numbers.

 

My boost and timing from dyno session...

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Edited by 240Z TwinTurbo, 06 December 2018 - 10:11 AM.

2006 EVO IX (573hp/439tq)

2009 GTR Premium

Built RB26 with no home (everything is for sale...lots of stuff)

Garrett V-band TwinScroll GTX35r Topmount Experiment
Garrett V-band TwinScroll GTX3576r, Curt Brown 10:1 2L, R2's, 110octane, 573hp/439tq


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Great numbers.  Curious as to the boost you were running on pump to generate those numbers.  My XG setup makes almost identical power on pump(20hp less on topend), but I have to push the turbo just about as hard as it will go on the topend (~24psi spike holding ~22psi).  I'm definitely eyeing a turbo upgrade in the future as I don't like to push the turbo so hard on a daily basis to support those numbers.

 

My boost and timing from dyno session...

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Good question.

 

That is 19-20psi to make that graph on E85


~Cicio

-OneLap of America Overall 1st Place - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

-TX2K13 Overall 1st Place | TX2K13 Class 2 1st Place

-Shootout 2015 Overall 1st Place & 2nd Place

-TX2K15 Class 4 2nd Place | TX2K15 Roll Race 1st Place SS

-FL2K 2015 Overall 1st Place

-TSM Shop Car (ETS Pro1900) @ 7.37 & 198

-Fastest Customer @ 7.52@192

-TSM ELITE Plus Stock Frames @ 7.98@169

-Standing Half Mile Stock Frame Turbo Record @ 209 TSM ELITE

-Standing Half Mile 225.9 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 219.5 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 218.3 MPH

 

TopSpeedForumGTR.jpg

Call: 678-297-7770

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**AWD Dyno Tuning

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Good question.

 

That is 19-20psi to make that graph on E85

 

Thank you for the response, but my question was regarding boost required on the pump gas (93 tune) dyno results.


2006 EVO IX (573hp/439tq)

2009 GTR Premium

Built RB26 with no home (everything is for sale...lots of stuff)

Garrett V-band TwinScroll GTX35r Topmount Experiment
Garrett V-band TwinScroll GTX3576r, Curt Brown 10:1 2L, R2's, 110octane, 573hp/439tq


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Cicio you keep making your cars fast and the marketing,will take care of itself. Look at all the Elite cars entering the World Cup, :)
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Thank you for the response, but my question was regarding boost required on the pump gas (93 tune) dyno results.

 

17-18psi


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~Cicio

-OneLap of America Overall 1st Place - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

-TX2K13 Overall 1st Place | TX2K13 Class 2 1st Place

-Shootout 2015 Overall 1st Place & 2nd Place

-TX2K15 Class 4 2nd Place | TX2K15 Roll Race 1st Place SS

-FL2K 2015 Overall 1st Place

-TSM Shop Car (ETS Pro1900) @ 7.37 & 198

-Fastest Customer @ 7.52@192

-TSM ELITE Plus Stock Frames @ 7.98@169

-Standing Half Mile Stock Frame Turbo Record @ 209 TSM ELITE

-Standing Half Mile 225.9 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 219.5 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 218.3 MPH

 

TopSpeedForumGTR.jpg

Call: 678-297-7770

cicio@topspeedmotorsports.com

TopSpeedMotorsports.com

**AWD Dyno Tuning

**Parts, Sales, Service


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Cicio you keep making your cars fast and the marketing,will take care of itself. Look at all the Elite cars entering the World Cup, :)

 

 

you would think that was true but it isn't.  I watch shitty shops continue to get more and more business because all they do is put pictures and videos together making it look like they know their ass from a hole in the head.  Just performing isn't the way anymore unfortunately.   Win on Sunday Sell on Monday is a ancient philosophy. 

 

Super sad


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~Cicio

-OneLap of America Overall 1st Place - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

-TX2K13 Overall 1st Place | TX2K13 Class 2 1st Place

-Shootout 2015 Overall 1st Place & 2nd Place

-TX2K15 Class 4 2nd Place | TX2K15 Roll Race 1st Place SS

-FL2K 2015 Overall 1st Place

-TSM Shop Car (ETS Pro1900) @ 7.37 & 198

-Fastest Customer @ 7.52@192

-TSM ELITE Plus Stock Frames @ 7.98@169

-Standing Half Mile Stock Frame Turbo Record @ 209 TSM ELITE

-Standing Half Mile 225.9 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 219.5 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 218.3 MPH

 

TopSpeedForumGTR.jpg

Call: 678-297-7770

cicio@topspeedmotorsports.com

TopSpeedMotorsports.com

**AWD Dyno Tuning

**Parts, Sales, Service


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17-18psi

 

OK, that is substantially lower than the XG's so definitely more desirable from a performance standpoint.  I assume your dyno was 4th gear and comparing my run in 3rd gear you reach 500ft-lbs only 300rpm later.  That's definitely impressive because I assume the turbine wheel is substantially larger E vs XG.


2006 EVO IX (573hp/439tq)

2009 GTR Premium

Built RB26 with no home (everything is for sale...lots of stuff)

Garrett V-band TwinScroll GTX35r Topmount Experiment
Garrett V-band TwinScroll GTX3576r, Curt Brown 10:1 2L, R2's, 110octane, 573hp/439tq


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OK, that is substantially lower than the XG's so definitely more desirable from a performance standpoint.  I assume your dyno was 4th gear and comparing my run in 3rd gear you reach 500ft-lbs only 300rpm later.  That's definitely impressive because I assume the turbine wheel is substantially larger E vs XG.

 

 

It is.... Thanks man I appreciate it. 


~Cicio

-OneLap of America Overall 1st Place - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

-TX2K13 Overall 1st Place | TX2K13 Class 2 1st Place

-Shootout 2015 Overall 1st Place & 2nd Place

-TX2K15 Class 4 2nd Place | TX2K15 Roll Race 1st Place SS

-FL2K 2015 Overall 1st Place

-TSM Shop Car (ETS Pro1900) @ 7.37 & 198

-Fastest Customer @ 7.52@192

-TSM ELITE Plus Stock Frames @ 7.98@169

-Standing Half Mile Stock Frame Turbo Record @ 209 TSM ELITE

-Standing Half Mile 225.9 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 219.5 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 218.3 MPH

 

TopSpeedForumGTR.jpg

Call: 678-297-7770

cicio@topspeedmotorsports.com

TopSpeedMotorsports.com

**AWD Dyno Tuning

**Parts, Sales, Service


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So what kind of times will this setup run?  quarter and half mile?



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Wow! The new Elites look killer, I’m sure the owner will be wanting MOAR in no time!

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[quote name="Cicio@TSM" post="139631" timestamp="1544125657"]you would think that was true but it isn't.  I watch shitty shops continue to get more and more business because all they do is put pictures and videos together making it look like they know their ass from a hole in the head.  Just performing isn't the way anymore unfortunately.   Win on Sunday Sell on Monday is a ancient philosophy. 
 
Super sad[/quote


It is Super sad! I 1000000000000000% agreee
Plus the people who buy this crap,,generally have all kind of issues and lose interest in the hobby,because they have to constantly fix little shit
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So what kind of times will this setup run?  quarter and half mile?

 

 

High 9s but we recommend a clutch upgrade if this setup is heavily drag raced. 


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~Cicio

-OneLap of America Overall 1st Place - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

-TX2K13 Overall 1st Place | TX2K13 Class 2 1st Place

-Shootout 2015 Overall 1st Place & 2nd Place

-TX2K15 Class 4 2nd Place | TX2K15 Roll Race 1st Place SS

-FL2K 2015 Overall 1st Place

-TSM Shop Car (ETS Pro1900) @ 7.37 & 198

-Fastest Customer @ 7.52@192

-TSM ELITE Plus Stock Frames @ 7.98@169

-Standing Half Mile Stock Frame Turbo Record @ 209 TSM ELITE

-Standing Half Mile 225.9 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 219.5 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 218.3 MPH

 

TopSpeedForumGTR.jpg

Call: 678-297-7770

cicio@topspeedmotorsports.com

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**AWD Dyno Tuning

**Parts, Sales, Service


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When you think about it, it's really staggering to know that a 9 second quarter mile car is ho hum these days.  A 9 second car is beyond amazingly fast, and on this and other forums, it's talked about like it's no big deal.  Most people have never, and never will, ride in a car that fast and have no idea the rush and "oh shit" moment when these cars launch.

 

I remember when I had a low 12 second grand national and I thought that was fast as shit.  My GTR is in a different galaxy performance wise.  But the GN was a blast to drive.


Edited by Guido, 10 December 2018 - 09:11 PM.

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Customer was nice enough to bring his car back by so we could take an outside picture.  

 

Thread Saved LOL 

 

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~Cicio

-OneLap of America Overall 1st Place - 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

-TX2K13 Overall 1st Place | TX2K13 Class 2 1st Place

-Shootout 2015 Overall 1st Place & 2nd Place

-TX2K15 Class 4 2nd Place | TX2K15 Roll Race 1st Place SS

-FL2K 2015 Overall 1st Place

-TSM Shop Car (ETS Pro1900) @ 7.37 & 198

-Fastest Customer @ 7.52@192

-TSM ELITE Plus Stock Frames @ 7.98@169

-Standing Half Mile Stock Frame Turbo Record @ 209 TSM ELITE

-Standing Half Mile 225.9 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 219.5 MPH

-Standing Half Mile 218.3 MPH

 

TopSpeedForumGTR.jpg

Call: 678-297-7770

cicio@topspeedmotorsports.com

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**AWD Dyno Tuning

**Parts, Sales, Service


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Dude, this thread was far from ruined before that picture.



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When you think about it, it's really staggering to know that a 9 second quarter mile car is ho hum these days.  A 9 second car is beyond amazingly fast, and on this and other forums, it's talked about like it's no big deal.  Most people have never, and never will, ride in a car that fast and have no idea the rush and "oh shit" moment when these cars launch.
 
I remember when I had a low 12 second grand national and I thought that was fast as shit.  My GTR is in a different galaxy performance wise.  But the GN was a blast to drive.


Man you have hit the nail on the head......Kudos!!!
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