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TSM Build (TSM Elite Prime / ShepTrans / ETS / T1R )

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How much power are you trying to make Shawn?

 

Wanted to tune only to the limit of the stock engine and stock trans (well, mine is built with baskets and Dodson clips/retainers and Dodson blueprinted pump, with anti-surge plate).

 

I think that's only 600hp if you use pump gas only (I have no source of E85 around here).

 

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I’ve made 750 pretty safely on an Elite on pump. A visconti dual 485 basket would be plenty and also stock location.
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Cicio why do you dislike the 12 injector setup? Is it due to the possibility of leaning a hole out if a secondary injector fails ?

Nice build !

Edited by V8killer, 19 January 2018 - 12:50 AM.

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12 injector seems very overkill and adding complexity into a situation where it is not needed.   Simply using some ID1700x's with some pressure will give you nearly stock like idle and will drive like a dream.

 

Thats my opinion for what it is worth....  a former Elite Plus owner speaking from my experience with the car and its idle characteristics.


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Fore owner here going on 4 years. no complaints. never had have fueling problems. 3582 turbos, 30s before then. Drag racing only, i can see having an issue on the road course below 1/4 tank. The asnu battleship (newest one) seems to utilize the oem sump. 12 inj is way overkill. take that cash and get a kaps controller instead.

 

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So are you saying my 2000s are oversized for 35r Turbos making 1300hp on stock crank? The elites are only 50-100 hp difference and running 1700s ? Not a fan of that size injector if it's not needed ?
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I’m using 2000’s on a 3582 setup with dual brushless. Should see how things look on the dyno shortly.
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TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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Fore owner here going on 4 years. no complaints. never had have fueling problems. 3582 turbos, 30s before then. Drag racing only, i can see having an issue on the road course below 1/4 tank. The asnu battleship (newest one) seems to utilize the oem sump. 12 inj is way overkill. take that cash and get a kaps controller instead.

 

~Dv8

On your fore setup,how loud are the pumps compared to stock? also how much fuel in tank is needed so not to cause any starvation issues?



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I have the fore triple you definitely hear it humming on ignition but once started you don't hear it over exhaust. Also ran it down to 1/8 and lower on the gauge but that was in between fills and just cruising to fill up.

Edited by V8killer, 20 January 2018 - 03:25 PM.

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Sub'd! Very interested to see the results and your real-world feedback


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Cicio why do you dislike the 12 injector setup? Is it due to the possibility of leaning a hole out if a secondary injector fails ?

Nice build !

 

The factory ECU doesn't have what it takes to properly control them.  It's like trying to launch the space shuttle with an iPhone.  It's stupid. 

 

Just my opinion. 


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I’m using 2000’s on a 3582 setup with dual brushless. Should see how things look on the dyno shortly.

 

my car is running 2000cc injectors and i notice the gas smell in the cabin to the point if you drive for an hour you will smell like gasoline. My buddy gtr also has the freaking gas same smell :)

Do you have the issue like us with your car?



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I didn’t as an A9 - I hope/doubt I will on this setup.

What fuel you running ? I run E85 exclusively.

Reminds me of my blown c6. An hour or two of cruising and your sucking fumes.
TSM Billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, TSM Elite Prime turbos, TSM Wet Sump Oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid and down pipe, STM titanium axle back, STM race FMIC, ID2000’s, Shep One K with drop gears and all the goodies., DS Axles, Volk Saga 18” 10/12” (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20” R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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i'm running mainly e85. I was told that 2000cc create gas smell because it has to run pretty rich. Well, my car is in the shop getting 12 injectors setup as we speak so will see if the smell goes away since my primary will be 1000cc. fingers cross :)


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i'm running mainly e85. I was told that 2000cc create gas smell because it has to run pretty rich. Well, my car is in the shop getting 12 injectors setup as we speak so will see if the smell goes away since my primary will be 1000cc. fingers cross :)

Congrats on the 12 injector setup!  Just curious what does your build consist of and which shop?


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TSM Elite Prime (4125lbs w/Audiophile sound / AC, etc.)

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8.75 @ 163MPH Tx2k19

190MPH Roll Race @ Tx2k19


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[quote name="celsius" post="133341" timestamp="1517997264"]Congrats on the 12 injector setup! Just curious what does your build consist of and which shop?[/

Here is my build list:

My car was built by Fullblown Motorsport

- Short block
- trans 18 plates 1-6 PPG
- FB GTX3076r
- FB race intercooler and piping
- Dual pumps 485s
- Upgrade fuel lines and pressure gauge
- E85 kit
- Fabworx valtronic exhaust

These are pretty much what I can remember and I think it covers majority of parts.

My car is at the shop getting upgraded on triple pumps and new set of turbo :)

Thus, I won’t be able to know if the gas smell is gone or not until I get the car back which will be around March I believe.
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nice list, what EMS are you using (COBB/Ecutek/Motec/Syvecs)?


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TSM Elite Prime (4125lbs w/Audiophile sound / AC, etc.)

1426 AWHP

8.75 @ 163MPH Tx2k19

190MPH Roll Race @ Tx2k19


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Ecutek



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nice list, what EMS are you using (COBB/Ecutek/Motec/Syvecs)?

 

Did you get your car dial in yet? any update numbers? :) 



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Did you get your car dial in yet? any update numbers? :)


The engine/trans is being built. With so many customers ahead of me, it’s going to take time.
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TSM Elite Prime (4125lbs w/Audiophile sound / AC, etc.)

1426 AWHP

8.75 @ 163MPH Tx2k19

190MPH Roll Race @ Tx2k19





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