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Boost Logic Woes

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untested?


Yes... when the OP purchased these there was not a single Dyno or any real world data on these turbos.

So yes... untested

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This is why buying a kit through a manufacturer's approved dealer and installer is the way to go.  It may cost more than buying direct because of sales tax and dealer margin but any defect claims/install issues would hopefully be handled between the manufacturer and the installer rather than through the retail customer.  I am a big fan of the under one roof approach to performance mods.    Causation in these types of legal disputes is very hard to prove.  Strong interpersonal relationships and mutual trust  between a customer and a shop that can take ownership of a customer's whole build because all parts and work on the car have been through the shop is the much better approach. 

 

That being said I hope the OP gets his car fixed and running really well.   This situation really sucks.               

Good advice, and the turbos *were* purchased through an approved dealer. That dealer had internal business issues with his shop landlord and could only work on the car in bits and pieces.  It took 3 months just to get the turbos in.  Imagine not having access to a (very small sq footage) shop because the other partner's personal cars were blocking the way.  It was a sucky situation for everyone.


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We have and many other shops in the US and Worldwide have used our titanium inlets and intakes without any issue. Our inlets and intake pipes are fused together without any filler rod. Additionally, the pie cuts are laser cut and cleaned, thereby not creating a possibility of slag. If there was a potential issue, I would be the first person to stand up and take care of the situation.
 
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The fact that you fused as opposed to using filler rod does not eliminate the possibility of oxidation (slag is not the correct term).  You needed to either back purge the weld to create an inert environment or use Solar Flux B to shield the backside of the weld from oxidation.  I've been welding for 18 years (not professionally) and you can create oxidized metal on the backside of a weld even if fusing, which can be detected in the pics provided although minor.  This material can be brittle and you 100% have to be mindful this stuff can come lose and should be ground off to eliminate this potential issue.


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Guys, this is going nowhere.  There just isn't enough proof, and this could go back and forth forever.  So I'm just going to eat the additional $5-6K needed to fix the issue.  This is one of those situations that the less I say right now, the better.  

 

Before I lose all credibility, I would like to say this: Look closely at what you receive from vendors (re: what 240Z Twin Turbo said) and make sure that your installer knows and understands the products.


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Fix the issue by selling up and getting a set of elite plus?

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Fix the issue by selling up and getting a set of elite plus?

It would end up being a short sale sold "as-is", "use at your own risk; you knew the story..."


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I dunno man, this seems like good money after bad. You'd take a loss for sure, but the end result would be something you could have confidence in for how many years to come?
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I dunno man, this seems like good money after bad. You'd take a loss for sure, but the end result would be something you could have confidence in for how many years to come?

 

I was thinking about that until I learned that the TSM Elites use BL's titanium intakes.  Or, so I understand.  I need turbos that can easily make 900+ on pump gas so that when I update my fuel system, clutches, and trans, I can bump up the boost from 20+ to 30+. Most importantly, they need to have a beefy manifold and turbine housing to absorb the prolonged heat from tracking.


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Guys, this is going nowhere.  There just isn't enough proof, and this could go back and forth forever.  So I'm just going to eat the additional $5-6K needed to fix the issue.  This is one of those situations that the less I say right now, the better.  

 

Before I lose all credibility, I would like to say this: Look closely at what you receive from vendors (re: what 240Z Twin Turbo said) and make sure that your installer knows and understands the products.

 

I don't think it is a question of you losing credibility because you paid a lot money, which resulted in a damaged turbocharger that requires substantially more money to fix.  Hard to know what actually happened so other than telling the story and pointing out your concerns there is not much more to be said.  People will read this review and make up their own minds whether or not they want to do business with Boost Logic.  Just stick to the facts and avoid conjecture...that's all you can do.


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The last set of elites I did had aluminum intakes.

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Hmmm I was pretty sure tsm builds that use elite plus run the tsm intakes..? Maybe Cicio can confirm.

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I've installed a few Elite turbos and they all came with aluminum intakes.
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I've installed a few Elite turbos and they all came with aluminum intakes.

"We cannot refund you for your mechanics sloppy work and the problems it has created. We use these titanium parts on all of our kits without any issues, additionally other shops such as TSM use them in their Elite Plus kits which also have no issues."

 

So, are there some TSM Elite Plus kits that use BL intakes and others that don't?


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"We cannot refund you for your mechanics sloppy work and the problems it has created. We use these titanium parts on all of our kits without any issues, additionally other shops such as TSM use them in their Elite Plus kits which also have no issues."

So, are there some TSM Elite Plus kits that use BL intakes and others that don't?

I love to see the bullshit logic these companies use when something goes wrong" we've never had this happen so therefore it didn't happen to you " lol

If I were BL I'd have taken the turbos back, refunded the customer their money and ate the rebuild cost before it ever escalated to this point/hit the forum. Chalk that up to the"cost of doing business"

You'd think having been in this business for as long as BL has they'd know when it's just one of those situations where it's best for all parties to cut ties, and move on, but no.. If they thought it was OP's sloppy mechanic, or whatever other excuse they can think of, fine, cut ties and let some other retailer sell him some turbos and deal with the headache.

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Pretty sure most are using these intakes with no issues. Myself as well. Tsm stocks them on the shelf all day long....

Edited by Blkonblk88, 06 September 2017 - 11:12 AM.


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I think as with any project, the more vendors you have involved the more you are going to have fingers pointing.  I am having my car built at BL with the same kit.  My car should be finished in a few weeks and will post results on this site.  I have known Zohair for many years, he is a very fair person.  I think it is hard to pinpoint what really happened with the install to cause the damage to the impeller.



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Man, I understand your frustration and I can only hope you get a fix. All considered, would you take BL on their deal and maybe you guys could split the cost on the CHRA and you get new intakes so that you actually get what you were hoping for?

 

I'm saying damage control that actually can yield a reasonable outcome, everything considered.



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Man, I understand your frustration and I can only hope you get a fix. All considered, would you take BL on their deal and maybe you guys could split the cost on the CHRA and you get new intakes so that you actually get what you were hoping for?

I'm saying damage control that actually can yield a reasonable outcome, everything considered.

I ended up getting a new CHRA at cost. That was the deal offered so I grabbed it.
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I ended up getting a new CHRA at cost. That was the deal offered so I grabbed it.


I would have done the same. So with that addressed, is there anything else BL recommends to achieve your goals with this build to ensure it is done 100% this time?





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